[00:00:42] [00:00:42] #commandhelper - Sun Dec 10 00:00:42 2017 [00:00:42] --- [00:00:45] * Topic is ':The wiki is THE source for info: http://bit.ly/jaxY3H | Don't use 3.3.0, use dev builds instead: http://builds.enginehub.org | Substantial features get pinged with @testers | Pastebin: http://paste.thezomg.com | Extension skeleton: https://files.entityreborn.com/CommandHelper/CHExtension.rar Build CH first if you have issues!' [00:00:45] * Set by LewsTherin!kinslayer@zeus.entityreborn.com on Tue Dec 05 16:41:08 [03:22:37] * VergilPrime (~VergilPri@2601:602:ca80:43d4:91e6:da3d:cc0:3b72) has joined #commandHelper [05:52:17] <VergilPrime> if I make a procedure inside a procedure is that bad [05:52:59] <PseudoKnight> no [05:53:09] <PseudoKnight> it'll only be available within the scope of that proc [05:57:16] <VergilPrime> that's what I want [09:23:00] <VergilPrime> pgroup() is fucky with luckperms [09:23:20] <PseudoKnight> no, it uses group.groupname permission [09:23:30] <VergilPrime> seems to get the groups the player is in and all groups those groups inherit from [09:23:46] <PseudoKnight> yes, because of inheritance [09:24:14] <VergilPrime> so negate group.groupname will solve all my problems or break everything else? [09:25:29] <PseudoKnight> depends on what uses that [09:26:00] <PseudoKnight> alternatively you can use vault [09:26:18] <PseudoKnight> since that can actually talk to the permission plugin [09:26:24] <PseudoKnight> bukkit doesn't know about groups [09:27:15] <VergilPrime> okay [09:29:32] <PseudoKnight> if you're using worldguard and you expect a group to have the same access as inherited groups, then you can't negate the perm [09:29:55] <PseudoKnight> if you're just getting a group name for display purposes, then vault is better [09:34:25] <PseudoKnight> though, i did use pgroup() for display purposes once... i just used the highest group [09:52:08] <VergilPrime> I'm using groups for all kinds of reasons, but right know it's my level of violence / karma system [09:52:47] <PseudoKnight> i keep it strictly to permission groups [09:53:16] <VergilPrime> well most perm plugins support multiple ladders for groups [09:53:44] <VergilPrime> so I have my "ranks" ladder set up for guest/player/trusted/moderator etc [09:53:46] <PseudoKnight> ya, but i can script other things if i need other functionality... cumbersome to use groups [09:54:42] <VergilPrime> well my karma groups include special permissions, prefixes, suffixes and even per-world stuff [09:55:01] <VergilPrime> so I'd say that it's probably worth it to integrate into permissions [09:56:27] <PseudoKnight> just don't let the restrictions or features of groups influence the design of those things [09:57:18] <VergilPrime> I just feel like it's a good fit to be honest [11:52:42] * VergilPrime (~VergilPri@2601:602:ca80:43d4:91e6:da3d:cc0:3b72) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:50:49] * tacocat (~DaddyEric@46.166.137.193) Quit (Ping timeout: 383 seconds) [13:30:50] [13:30:50] #commandHelper - Sun Dec 10 13:30:50 2017 [13:30:50] --- [13:30:50] * Topic is ':The wiki is THE source for info: http://bit.ly/jaxY3H | Don't use 3.3.0, use dev builds instead: http://builds.enginehub.org | Substantial features get pinged with @testers | Pastebin: http://paste.thezomg.com | Extension skeleton: https://files.entityreborn.com/CommandHelper/CHExtension.rar Build CH first if you have issues!' [13:30:50] * Set by LewsTherin!kinslayer@zeus.entityreborn.com on Tue Dec 05 16:41:08 [13:30:50] * Server sets mode: +n [13:30:50] * Server sets mode: +t [13:33:26] [13:33:26] #commandHelper - Sun Dec 10 13:33:26 2017 [13:33:26] --- [13:33:26] * Topic is ':The wiki is THE source for info: http://bit.ly/jaxY3H | Don't use 3.3.0, use dev builds instead: http://builds.enginehub.org | Substantial features get pinged with @testers | Pastebin: http://paste.thezomg.com | Extension skeleton: https://files.entityreborn.com/CommandHelper/CHExtension.rar Build CH first if you have issues!' [13:33:26] * Set by LewsTherin!kinslayer@zeus.entityreborn.com on Tue Dec 05 16:41:08 [13:33:26] * Server sets mode: +n [13:33:26] * Server sets mode: +t