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[09:26:24] <PseudoKnight> bukkit doesn't know about groups
[09:27:15] <VergilPrime> okay
[09:29:32] <PseudoKnight> if you're using worldguard and you expect a group to have the same access as inherited groups, then you can't negate the perm
[09:29:55] <PseudoKnight> if you're just getting a group name for display purposes, then vault is better
[09:34:25] <PseudoKnight> though, i did use pgroup() for display purposes once... i just used the highest group
[09:52:08] <VergilPrime> I'm using groups for all kinds of reasons, but right know it's my level of violence / karma system
[09:52:47] <PseudoKnight> i keep it strictly to permission groups
[09:53:16] <VergilPrime> well most perm plugins support multiple ladders for groups
[09:53:44] <VergilPrime> so I have my "ranks" ladder set up for guest/player/trusted/moderator etc
[09:53:46] <PseudoKnight> ya, but i can script other things if i need other functionality... cumbersome to use groups
[09:54:42] <VergilPrime> well my karma groups include special permissions, prefixes, suffixes and even per-world stuff
[09:55:01] <VergilPrime> so I'd say that it's probably worth it to integrate into permissions
[09:56:27] <PseudoKnight> just don't let the restrictions or features of groups influence the design of those things
[09:57:18] <VergilPrime> I just feel like it's a good fit to be honest
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[13:30:50] #commandHelper - Sun Dec 10 13:30:50 2017
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[13:30:50] * Topic is ':The wiki is THE source for info: http://bit.ly/jaxY3H | Don't use 3.3.0, use dev builds instead: http://builds.enginehub.org | Substantial features get pinged with @testers | Pastebin: http://paste.thezomg.com | Extension skeleton: https://files.entityreborn.com/CommandHelper/CHExtension.rar Build CH first if you have issues!'
[13:30:50] * Set by LewsTherin!kinslayer@zeus.entityreborn.com on Tue Dec 05 16:41:08
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[13:33:26] #commandHelper - Sun Dec 10 13:33:26 2017
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[13:33:26] * Topic is ':The wiki is THE source for info: http://bit.ly/jaxY3H | Don't use 3.3.0, use dev builds instead: http://builds.enginehub.org | Substantial features get pinged with @testers | Pastebin: http://paste.thezomg.com | Extension skeleton: https://files.entityreborn.com/CommandHelper/CHExtension.rar Build CH first if you have issues!'
[13:33:26] * Set by LewsTherin!kinslayer@zeus.entityreborn.com on Tue Dec 05 16:41:08
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