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[00:00:05] #buildcraft - Tue Aug 22 00:00:05 2017
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[00:00:18] * Topic is ':BuildCraft Discussion & Development - http://mod-buildcraft.com | Latest: 7.1.22 / 7.99.6 (Compat 7.1.6 / java.lang.NullPointerException) | Please report bugs at http://github.com/BuildCraft/BuildCraft/issues | Discord: http://discord.gg/QZAtRuM'
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[13:24:37] <BCDiscord> <captain b​lack seaz> is there a version for 1.12.1?
[13:25:11] <BCDiscord> <Luigi​Hutch> Nope
[13:25:24] <BCDiscord> <captain b​lack seaz> that would be ubber
[13:25:26] <BCDiscord> <captain b​lack seaz> ty mate
[13:28:04] <BCDiscord> <af​dw> you can build this yourself if you want: https://github.com/AEnterprise/BuildCraft/tree/1.12
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[15:14:00] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> @adfw When you make commits, how do i do to compile an updated version of BC without redoing all the steps?
[15:14:19] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> @afdw When you make commits, how do i do to compile an updated version of BC without redoing all the steps?
[15:14:44] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> I'm new to git
[15:14:49] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> well that is my fork so i'd make the commits (myself or push from the main repo so it's up to date) but basicly you just want to do a git pull and build again
[15:15:03] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> ok thanks 😉
[15:16:04] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> but if you do build yourself please do not distribute it or use in any packs, this is ment for testing (and change the version number to something else, add something to it so it's not showing as 7.99.7 in the logs if you report issues)
[15:16:19] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Ok np
[15:16:28] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> I'm not doing it for testing
[15:16:59] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Do i have to change the version number in the build.gradle file?
[15:17:22] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> yes that's what version in bakes into the mod jar
[15:19:27] <BCDiscord> <Ale​xIIL> in build.properties
[15:19:49] <BCDiscord> <Ale​xIIL> (not build.gradle)
[15:20:18] <BCDiscord> * <AEnte​rprise> hides
[15:21:07] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> ok
[15:21:33] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> What command do I run to build when I'm on windows /gradlew build ?
[15:21:50] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> gradlew.bat build
[15:22:09] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> It failed 😦
[15:23:39] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> I'll try to use the code from the official buildcraft repository
[15:23:54] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> gradlew.bat setupDecompWorkspace build
[15:24:05] <BCDiscord> <af​dw> probably it's because use used wrong API?
[15:24:10] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> should work without the setupdecomp, what's the error?
[15:25:21] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Some input files additionally use or override a deprecated API
[15:25:30] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Some input files additionally use unchecked or unsafe operations
[15:26:07] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> those should be warnings...
[15:26:27] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Ah you're right
[15:26:34] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> 51 errors
[15:27:05] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> There's a problem with sth called NbtSquishConstants
[15:28:38] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> what's the error it gives for that?
[15:28:58] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> There are 51 errors, is there a file where it prints those?
[15:29:07] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> and did you get the BC api or my fork api?
[15:29:16] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> should be in your terminal
[15:29:28] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Your fork api
[15:30:19] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> There are arrows pointing towards the capital N letters before NbtSquishConstants
[15:31:01] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> yes and what's on the other end of the arrow? should be an error
[15:31:17] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> https://pastebin.com/P5FUJBve
[15:32:46] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> yeah that's an api class it's missing
[15:33:04] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> you sure you have my version of the api and in the right place?
[15:33:10] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Yep
[15:34:37] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> Are you going to publish the 1.12 code of Buildcraft on github before release?
[15:35:08] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> ofc, it'll be merged in the normal repo once it's fully done
[15:35:37] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> ok cool!
[15:36:19] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> but you can't have the right api in the right place as then that build wouldn't have failed
[15:36:35] <BCDiscord> <Skillo​tic0703> What did I do wrong?
[15:36:43] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> you have my fork in there in a folder called `BuildcraftAPI` ?
[15:37:16] <BCDiscord> <Luigi​Hutch> -> #support
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[18:11:50] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> damn... 8G RAM is just not enough for mod dev... 😦
[18:12:11] <@asie> really?
[18:12:16] <@asie> i develop on 6G on my laptop
[18:12:18] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> should be
[18:13:04] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> well... combine that with my bad habit of having 20 open chrome tabs at all time... with a stupid 5400 RPM HDD...
[18:13:13] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> and everything is so fucking slow... so so so slow...
[18:13:27] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> I hate laptops!
[18:14:38] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> 8GB should still be (just) enough for that
[18:17:00] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> barely... main problem is overall slowness... because I have like 8G RAM and like 15 G total memory allocated... so page swapping like crazy... on a slow hdd...
[18:17:48] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> 15GB? seems alot, guess you need to kill some background things
[18:18:59] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> yeah... 😃
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[18:19:49] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> should probably tell gradle to stop using daemons... if that's possible... :S
[18:20:01] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> those take like 5G.... for some reason it has 2 started...
[18:20:18] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> what are those things doing if they take 5GB?
[18:20:37] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> they shoudn't use RAM when idle (only a tiny bit to just to stay alive)
[18:20:38] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> I don't know... screwing each other probably...
[18:21:53] <BCDiscord> <Face_of_Cat> something is fishy there... http://tinyurl.com/y8642gbw
[18:22:17] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> :thinkGate:
[18:25:19] <BCDiscord> <Ale​xIIL> java doesn't really let go of memory usually, you could try disabling gradle deamons in gradles config file, or periodically running `gradle --stop` to kill them
[18:35:20] <BCDiscord> <Face_of_Cat> heh... closed intellij http://tinyurl.com/y9kj857b
[18:35:22] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> 😄 😄
[18:35:27] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> 10G down
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[18:36:03] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> that's an abnormal drop, guess it has done some things it shoudn't have and kept hogging the memory as result
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[18:40:01] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> it was started more than 24 hours ago...
[18:40:38] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> still, it shouln't have needed a peek of 10GB during that time unless it did something it shoudn't have
[18:40:56] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> though that's hard (to not say impossible) to trace
[18:41:35] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> yeah...
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[19:13:03] <BCDiscord> <Luigi​Hutch> I don't know why people are so obsessed with the 1.12 branch. It's basically just 1.11 with missing recipes, a lot more bugs and is definitely not finalised
[19:13:26] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:13:43] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> it shoudn't have more bugs, just a tad less polished internaly atm
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[19:30:51] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> bugs are fun
[19:31:12] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> also... easier to make suggestions for changes into something that's WIP... if needed...
[19:32:22] <BCDiscord> <Luigi​Hutch> Well 1.11.2 is still wip and you are more likely get get features implement properly there than in 1.12
[19:37:20] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> but... but... 1.12 is newer!... so... better!!
[19:37:48] <BCDiscord> <Luigi​Hutch> Sure...
[19:45:18] <BCDiscord> <Ale​xIIL> 😛
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[19:57:41] <@asie> >but... but... 1.12 is newer!... so... better!!
[19:57:48] <@asie> tell that to all the awesome 1.7.10 devs and players
[19:58:07] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> just don't try telling that to the 1.10.2 players
[19:58:16] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> you probably won't survive that
[20:03:32] <@asie> i have multiple times but don't try this at home!!!
[20:03:48] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> yeah well you're a professional 😉
[20:04:03] <BCDiscord> <Kris​1432> is 1.12 better though haha
[20:04:20] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> depends on how you define better...
[20:04:46] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> I found out at an early age that sometimes messing with the definitions is the best way to go through life...
[20:08:59] <@asie> 1.12 will only be as good as we make it
[20:10:51] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> Thags true for all MC versions realy
[20:13:32] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> I'm actually quite excited about 1.13... sounds like a lot of changes coming...
[20:15:17] <@asie> so you'll probably never see it modded
[20:22:48] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> nah... it will happen...
[20:23:00] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> maybe not for old old mods...
[20:23:11] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> but even for old mods... a complete rewrite is sometimes a good thing!
[20:23:18] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> like... gives you a chance to make it in kotlin... 😛
[20:23:50] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> what's your timezone @AEnterprise  ?
[20:24:32] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> Gmt+1, brussels
[20:26:57] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> ah... GMT+3 here... or +2... never could keep track of summer time crap... 23:36 here atm...
[20:27:32] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> 22:27 here
[20:27:46] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> so GMT+2 :)...
[20:27:56] <BCDiscord> <Face_​of_Cat> ah... GMT+3 here... or +2... never could keep track of summer time crap... 23:26 here atm...
[20:28:04] <BCDiscord> <AEnte​rprise> Yep
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